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Muskwa
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Location: Somewhere down the lazy river Joined: 03.26.2013
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I think there are more replacements for Perreault in the pipeline than Lowry. (Kyle Connor in particular) Lowry is also a lot younger and a lot less injury prone. If I had to choose b/w the two I'm protecting Lowry. |
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With the Jets prospect pool they might be in trouble with the cap in a few years so maybe they keep Lowry who is cheaper and let Perreault go to make room for a cheaper replacement. Either way they are going to lose a productive player. |
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JetsAvs
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Location: Kelowna, BC Joined: 01.20.2009
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I too would keep Lowry because of his contract status and he won't get 4 mil on his next deal...
Perreault should be left unprotected but that doesn't mean the knights take him. They'll be working to fill all positions, its going to be really interesting how this all shakes out. Its funny reading all of the team writers saying that 'this person is gone' when they don't know whats going to happen with the team structure; LV cant have 20 players at 4 mil per year, they're going to have some low salary players as well. not only that, the free agency period for LV could take winnipeg off the board. I see LV signing Pavlec to drive the team bus. That would be the best case scenerio for the jets anyhow. |
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Got to agree with Muskwa, there are replacement skilled players in the pipeline such as Connor and Roslovic. Lowry has progressed, albeit perhaps slower than some might wish but he is durable and trending the proper way. Not likely going to be a top six, but big, physical, and starting to score.
I like Perrault, he is exciting and he has been trending the right way, very skilled but durability is an issue with me.
Tough decisions indeed! Keep both for sure if you can but do you need 4 million in the near future for Ehlers or Laine contracts? Entry level contracts for Connor or Roslovic can help ease that issue when its time to pony up for Ehlers, which his (Ehlers) ELC is done at the end of next season.
I have a mini pack for Moose games. Roslovic is a smooth skater, head always up, looks good for a young kid. Connor is also coming along nicely and has almost caught Roslovic in points (2 points behind Roslovic) in I think 12 less games (not a 100% sure if it 12 games but think so) My point being that there is some nice young talent there, not quite sure they are NHL ready yet but hey, I didn't think Morrisey was ready for the NHL last year and he is the Jets best defenseman this year!! So, there you go!! |
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Perreault isn't being exposed.
Lowry is a very good 4C with limited offensive potential and average skating. He's a player I'd prefer to keep, but I'd lose him to Vegas over anyone else
Copp is basically Lowry, but with a higher offensive ceiling and whom is considerably faster. I would argue he's already better than Lowry, but Lowry is bigger, so the Jets love him more. He's also 2 years younger.
Armia, like Copp, is a better skater and has a higher offensive ceiling. His work along the boards is second to none. His defensive game leaves a lot to be desired, but his being younger than Lowry gives him the edge for me.
Dano is the best player listed here that isn't Perreault. He shouldn't be exposed, but the Jets aren't very smart, so who knows (they traded up for Stanley, a long shot for the NHL, when they could've done the same for Chychrun). He's the youngest of the group, and has better numbers across the board than anyone but Perreault. Which means he's likely gone, as the Jets like big players with minimal skill. |
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BINGO!
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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I'm glad I agree with most of you. Obviously keep both if you can but if it were head to head, I'd keep Lowry! Perrault can not play on the bottom 6, he disappears and all those advanced stats he is supposedly so good at go out the window. Petan, armia, connor can all do what Perrault is doing in his role if given the chance. Lowry leads the jets every year in hits? Why Does no one mention this, teams like Anaheim dominate us because we are too weak!! Also, Perrault sucks at centre!! We need at least one centre over 6' that doesn't fall down when breathed on. When this team is ready to compete he will be our fourth line centre but we need that. We can't lose the only guy who hits. There is a reason dano has been tossed around like a cheap hooker, he is not very good! I wish Vegas would take him!!! |
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Work hard to convince Enstrom to wave that no trade clause. If he does that, and we can protect 7 forwards along with Buff Trouba and Myers, are we even discussing this? |
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jetsnation
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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Work hard to convince Enstrom to wave that no trade clause. If he does that, and we can protect 7 forwards along with Buff Trouba and Myers, are we even discussing this
I agree. Either ask Enstrom to waive which he may do because he likely would not get taken anyways with only one year left on an relatively expensive contract OR trade a pick / prospect or both so we can protect Myers.
Now there is also a third option which no one has really considered. That is to ask Enstrom to waive. Once he does its a lot cheaper to trade a lesser pick or prospect to keep him than it is to do the same for Myers. Chevy are you listening here becuase I think this is our best strategy of them all. ! |
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Work hard to convince Enstrom to wave that no trade clause. If he does that, and we can protect 7 forwards along with Buff Trouba and Myers, are we even discussing this? - BookemDano
I think if Enstrom is left unprotected, right or wrong he would be taken by Vegas for sure!! If not for them, then for a deal they have worked out with someone who really wants him. Don't forget, Vegas could eat half his salary in any trade! Making him much more attractive to a lot of teams. Our D suck! Can we afford to lose anyone not named chariot, postma or Stuart? |
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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I protect Enstrom over Myers. Enstrom's deal is shorter and he's a better defensive player than Myers. Myers is also a huge question mark if he even plays again. Then again, so is Toby if age catches up with him.
I keep Enstrom only because Myers' game falls apart when he's away from Enstrom, whereas Enstrom makes all his partners better. |
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I protect Enstrom over Myers. Enstrom's deal is shorter and he's a better defensive player than Myers. Myers is also a huge question mark if he even plays again. Then again, so is Toby if age catches up with him.
I keep Enstrom only because Myers' game falls apart when he's away from Enstrom, whereas Enstrom makes all his partners better. - Rexypoo
I am glad that you are not the GM. |
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Just trade us Lowry. - BINGO!
Sure as long as Slavin is the piece coming coming back!!! |
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BINGO!
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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Sure as long as Slavin is the piece coming coming back!!! - TheUltimateJet
lol nah |
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Sorry, UltimateJet. I pick the better player on a shorter contract whom isn't coming off of a possible career ending injury every time. |
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jetsnation
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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The cost to protect Myers would be likely a third round pick in 2017 PLUS a prospect like Brendan Lemieux or a second rounder and a slightly lesser prospect.
The cost to protect Enstrom would be a third round pick OR a Brendan Lemieux.
Better to ask Enstrom to waive and then play the less costly trading card.
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jetsnation
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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Personally, I'd take Karl Alzner over Slavin anyday. A left-handed defenceman the Jets would love to have. Probably cost us $4.5 to 5 MM per season as a free agent though. However, a top notch goalie should be our first priority for that type of money. |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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Personally, I'd take Karl Alzner over Slavin anyday. A left-handed defenceman the Jets would love to have. Probably cost us $4.5 to 5 MM per season as a free agent though. However, a top notch goalie should be our first priority for that type of money. - jetsnation
Well that's pretty stupid.
Also, you can't have him anyway. |
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BINGO!
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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Well that's pretty stupid.
Also, you can't have him anyway. - BINGO!
Jaccob Slavin
6'2, 205, 22 years old
5 goals, 28 Assists, 33 points
Slavin is a +21 on a team with a -16 goal differential and leads all defensemen in takeaways.
Karl Alzner
6'2, 214, 28 years old
3 goals, 10 Assists, 13 points
Alzner is a +21 on a team with a +75 goal differential and is... 64th among defensemen in hits, 13th in locked shots. (Slavin is 14th, with only two fewer blocked shots.)
Alzner has turned the puck over 49 times, and has taken it away from an opponent 17 times.
Slavin has turned the puck over 50 times, and has taken it away from an opponent 77 times. |
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Jets have to keep Lowry over Perreault.
We have no other big, physical centers coming up. We do have some skilled forwards in the pipeline. Vegas may not even take Perreault, it's a chance that will have to be taken. Maybe they will take Dano
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The cost to protect Myers would be likely a third round pick in 2017 PLUS a prospect like Brendan Lemieux or a second rounder and a slightly lesser prospect.
The cost to protect Enstrom would be a third round pick OR a Brendan Lemieux.
Better to ask Enstrom to waive and then play the less costly trading card. - jetsnation
why do you assume Vegas would prefer these trade situations over having Myers or Enstrom? I think they'd try and milk Chevy for more or tell him where to go. |
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@Ross77
Agreed....it's not as if no other team will be wanting to make similar offers to Vegas. Inevitably, Vegas has to put a team on the ice and has to have real live players, not just futures. |
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Slavin is a young, to play pairing dman. Still has room to grow.
Alzner is a decent bottom pairing dman at the end of his prime. Has been carried arks Carlson and Niskanen for 3 years.
I pick Slavin over anyone on the Jets or Hurricanes that isn't named Trouba. |
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Slavin is a young, to play pairing dman. Still has room to grow.
Alzner is a decent bottom pairing dman at the end of his prime. Has been carried arks Carlson and Niskanen for 3 years.
I pick Slavin over anyone on the Jets or Hurricanes that isn't named Trouba. - Rexypoo
How do we know that Trouba wants to play for the Jets? |
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